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Generators
« on: August 18, 2021, 04:39:08 AM »

I know as much about generators as I do about most things in life.  Which is nothing at all.

It looks like we're going to want one that will power two sets of warmers and a few fans.

What do we want to buy?

Also, does this look right?

CMP - rent a garage it has power and a reduced number of ants
VIR N - plenty of power everywhere
VIR S - get there early and set up an armed perimeter around an outlet that will probably trip out anyway, or bring a generator
VIR Patriot - bring a generator
RA - plenty of power everywhere
NCBike - bring a generator
RRR - plenty of power everywhere
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Re: Generators
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2021, 05:15:11 AM »

I have the HF Predator 3500. I have approx. 300 hrs on it and it has been flawless.
The key with the Chinesium generators is the startup process. Spend the time to break it in properly and it will last a good long time.

Here is my procedure:
Step 1: Remove the spark plug and put some Lucas Stabilizer oil in the cylinder and pull the starter cord slowly for 1 min.
Step 2: Fill the crankcase with a 50/50 mix of Lucas Oil and your oil of choice(15w/40 Rotella for me)
Step 3: Crank the engine and run it for 1 min, with no load.
Step 4: Drain the oil and be amazed at the amount of metal shavings that come out of the crankcase. It is shocking and these engines to not have oil filters.
Step 5: Refill crankcase with oil and run it for 5 min. with no load. There won't be as much metal, but still alarming.
Step 6: Refill crankcase with oil and run for 15 min, with a light load(small heater) then drain the oil again.
Step 7: Refill crankcase with oil and stick with 50hr oil changes.

The Predator also has an issue of air starvation, but a couple of holes in the oil fill door solves that.
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Re: Generators
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2021, 01:47:35 PM »

Even if most places have reliable power it pays to have a generator. I've been at both North and South where there has been a power outage from the utility and not related to glitches with power poles in the paddock. If you just assume that anyone who is serious about this sport needs a generator then the question is just what do you need? Probably one of the Predator's would be fine although I have a couple of Honda's that I've had for about fifteen years. Never a problem with either and they both have a lot of hours on them. You can find a lot of reviews of the Predator on you tube.
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Re: Generators
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2021, 05:06:59 AM »

Thanks John, and thanks fireman for the detailed break-in procedure.  It looks like even Consumer Reports gives the Predator a thumbs-up and I'm leaning in that direction.

But if I were to splurge on a Honda or a Yamaha (assuming Yamaha generators are reliable unlike Yamaha R1s), does anyone know where you can get the best deals on them?

edit - and do the Predators ever go on sale, or is $870 the best price for the 3500?

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Re: Generators
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2021, 10:21:40 AM »

The Predators do go on sale frequently. I feel like I’ve seen them in the $700-$750 range on occasion. But I haven’t looked in probably a year.


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Re: Generators
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2021, 11:06:05 AM »

Thanks Dan!  I'll check the price of the 3500 regularly.  Hopefully they have a big Labor Day sale!   :thumbup:
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Re: Generators
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2021, 02:48:00 PM »

Don't be trying to sneak in a snark about unreliable R1s there Eric!

Just because you're a Suzuki guy and all jealous and whatnot.

 :haha:

BTW - have also heard good things about the Predator generators - though it does say something that there's MANY Honda and Yamaha generators around for many, many years.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2021, 03:55:05 PM »

The choice partially depends on how much it will be used. I think the Predator generators generally are pretty good. My big Honda has 2600 hours on it now with never one issue. It starts every time no matter how long it's been sitting, or how old the gas is. I'm not sure a Predator would be as reliable for so long, but for $850 you could by a new one every two or three years. If you put it in perspective that's the cost of two sets of tires, which some people will use in the course of a month. You could spend a lot on the front end and have something that will last you for twenty years, or get something that you know is going to be good for a while, and then replace it before you have to worry about it letting you down.
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Re: Generators
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2021, 05:16:04 PM »

Thanks Mike and John!  It sounds like there are not any bad choices here, just different choices.   :thumbup:
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Re: Generators
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2021, 01:33:45 AM »

If I remember correctly, I paid just under $800 for mine with the 2 year extended warranty.

As the guy working at the HF store said "use it for 2 years and 364 days, then bring it back and say there is a problem with it and we will replace it no questions asked. Only have to buy the extended warranty on the replaced machine for $120 and you are covered for 3 more years"

Now, I probably will not be doing that, because as of today as I have ethics, but who knows in another 1 1/2 years....
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Re: Generators
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2021, 04:22:38 AM »

This is true. I know someone who has replaced one under warranty. It's almost like a trade-in program.
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Re: Generators
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2021, 07:16:10 AM »

This is true. I know someone who has replaced one under warranty. It's almost like a trade-in program.

This guy! Replaced my predator under extended warranty because finding carb parts is difficult. Honestly they dont even care if anything is wrong with it or not. Just as long as you drain the gas and oil before you bring it in. I definitely recommend the predators! The newer honda and yamaha generators are fuel injected which is a plus but they coast alot more. Just remember to use fuel stabilizer especially in the off season.
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