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 on: January 19, 2018, 10:38:06 AM 
Started by sportracer07 - Last post by SVblues
INTERESTED, sent pm

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 on: January 19, 2018, 08:45:27 AM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by bigshug1
If the haha can rip woods on an mx 450 then I'll never need anything else. Lol

OTP Racing
#23 - SV650

Right?!?!

"Pushing the pace" on a 450 in the woods?

I suck at motorcycle riding :(

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 on: January 19, 2018, 07:51:41 AM 
Started by RocketDan - Last post by 52 Ruhe
Yeah that’s part of the deal when ordering one set of bodywork and getting it painted over the course of 3 to 4 years versus the team it’s ordering 10 sets of bodywork and getting it all painted it at once he’s got a put those priorities first. Guy has a little one to feed


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 on: January 19, 2018, 07:07:26 AM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by spiderman636
If the haha can rip woods on an mx 450 then I'll never need anything else. Lol

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#23 - SV650


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 on: January 19, 2018, 06:26:08 AM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by RocketDan
I don’t think anyone will argue that a KTM 300 XC-W is not one of if not the best woods bike.

But not everyone has the coin to go buy a $10k bike to ride in the woods.

IMO, Play bikes will take you farther than you think. And an MX bike can handle plenty of pace in the woods. Neither bike is perfect, but life  isn’t perfect either, so make due with what you have...


Daniel
OTP Racing #14
Yamaha R1
Wilmington, NC

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 on: January 18, 2018, 10:27:27 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by the HAHA
I'm kind of the old school kind of dirt rider, whereas I ride whatever I got. I have run several mx 450s on trails throughout the years and havent had any real problems. When I start pushing the pace, the mx bike doesn't give me any grief in the trails. I really like the electric start option, but I have yet to own a dirtbike that has one. Not having an E-start did not really put me at a disadvantage, but I am looking to buy a bike with one for two reasons (I'm old and lazy). I have not ridden a trails bike, but I have seen people out on the trails shreddin those woods bikes.

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 on: January 18, 2018, 07:13:29 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by Otto Man
Having the easy button on a dirt bike is like having a quick shifter on your track bike. Do you need one? Hell no you don't. Would you ever own another bike without one, once you had one with it? NOPE!  :D

 But having both a CRF230 (wife's) and the 300 in the garage, once you start amping up the pace, you won't be seeking out the play bike anymore. LOL

If you're just out having fun, then as long as you got a bike to ride, life is good.

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 on: January 18, 2018, 07:00:54 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by spiderman636
I agree. Would certainly love to have the magic button for convenience but it's pretty much just that, convenience. Yea kicking a bunch of times on the side of the mountain sucks but it's really not that bad just inconvenient.


Maybe if I were older or out of shape and it really hindered my ride to have to kick a bike a bunch I'd feel differently. But I'm not at that point yet.

I've ridden my mx bike (Mind you its not stock but I bought it this way) at brown mountain and brushy Mountain with other guys on prepped woods bikes and mine does fine. The guys that are faster than me could likely swap bikes and still be faster than me.

But yes for me, it's just fun. Doing hare scramble and riding in general is all for fun. 2 wheels and knobby tires and I'd have the same amount of fun.

Took my Drz125 to Durhamtown with the guys and had a blast on that too.

Not really trying to debate you because your opinion is your opinion. I just know that it's a really common thing in the 2 wheel world to emphasis how important the machine/ components are when the human operating the machine prob just neefsto Upgrade their talent. And that's the boat I'm in. I don't think the bike matters much for me I just need to work on me.

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#23 - SV650


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 on: January 18, 2018, 06:43:11 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by Otto Man
Well, it shares a lot of parallel's with this sport. A lot of it depends on what you want to do. Do you just want to have fun? Then yeah, it doesn't really matter what you have, you'll have fun. You can have just as much fun on a CRF230 as you can a YZ450. Do you want to get faster? Do hare scrambles and such?

19" rear's suck in the woods. They pinch tubes easier and just don't have the traction in total gnarly situations like a 18" does. Hence the reason every woods bike comes with a 18" and every MX bike has a 19"...

A 2 stroke MX bike, with no fly wheel weight, stalls super easy and has zero bottom end.

So I guess you're right, you change the suspension, tires, add fly wheel weight, do this, do that...then yeah, it'll work really good. But even then, it still won't have the typical wider ratio gear box you'll find in a woods bike.

You take a MX bike that was built for the woods onto a MX track, it'll still suck there as you bottom out the suspension over even the smaller doubles and feel the bars deflect hard to the left or right when you bottom out hard going over whoops.

You know how much it's worth to have that magical red button next to the throttle when you eat shit 2 hrs into a hare scramble race on the side of a hill? Effing priceless...and that MX bike ain't gonna have that.  :)

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 on: January 18, 2018, 05:47:00 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by spiderman636
I can't seem to buy into the whole MX bikes make shitty woods bike idea. I feel like it's the dirt version of guys feeling like the need awesome suspension and slicks at the race track when the stock machine is plenty capable.

I've heard ppl say they are heavy. That's confusing because the WR is supposed to be a great woods bike and it's heavier. Also, while I know a 2 stroke is lighter, the weight of my mx bike has yet to give me any trouble. I actually find it pretty easy to toss around.

Ive heard suspension. Again see comment about. This sounds like track down guys feeling like the needs ohlins forks etc while in I group. Nothing wrong with that but not necessary. Also, if the suspension is stiff if seems like a pretty cheap and easy fix to soften it, no?

If someone cared enough, adding a flywheel weight would be pretty easy.

Idk maybe i have ancient thinking. It has 2 wheels and knobby tires. I feel like that should get the general population around most trails pretty easily. Maybe I need to ride a woods bike to see the difference but I find it pretty easy to ride my mx bike through trails.

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#23 - SV650


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