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 on: Today at 06:43:11 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by Otto Man
Well, it shares a lot of parallel's with this sport. A lot of it depends on what you want to do. Do you just want to have fun? Then yeah, it doesn't really matter what you have, you'll have fun. You can have just as much fun on a CRF230 as you can a YZ450. Do you want to get faster? Do hare scrambles and such?

19" rear's suck in the woods. They pinch tubes easier and just don't have the traction in total gnarly situations like a 18" does. Hence the reason every woods bike comes with a 18" and every MX bike has a 19"...

A 2 stroke MX bike, with no fly wheel weight, stalls super easy and has zero bottom end.

So I guess you're right, you change the suspension, tires, add fly wheel weight, do this, do that...then yeah, it'll work really good. But even then, it still won't have the typical wider ratio gear box you'll find in a woods bike.

You take a MX bike that was built for the woods onto a MX track, it'll still suck there as you bottom out the suspension over even the smaller doubles and feel the bars deflect hard to the left or right when you bottom out hard going over whoops.

You know how much it's worth to have that magical red button next to the throttle when you eat shit 2 hrs into a hare scramble race on the side of a hill? Effing priceless...and that MX bike ain't gonna have that.  :)

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 on: Today at 05:47:00 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by spiderman636
I can't seem to buy into the whole MX bikes make shitty woods bike idea. I feel like it's the dirt version of guys feeling like the need awesome suspension and slicks at the race track when the stock machine is plenty capable.

I've heard ppl say they are heavy. That's confusing because the WR is supposed to be a great woods bike and it's heavier. Also, while I know a 2 stroke is lighter, the weight of my mx bike has yet to give me any trouble. I actually find it pretty easy to toss around.

Ive heard suspension. Again see comment about. This sounds like track down guys feeling like the needs ohlins forks etc while in I group. Nothing wrong with that but not necessary. Also, if the suspension is stiff if seems like a pretty cheap and easy fix to soften it, no?

If someone cared enough, adding a flywheel weight would be pretty easy.

Idk maybe i have ancient thinking. It has 2 wheels and knobby tires. I feel like that should get the general population around most trails pretty easily. Maybe I need to ride a woods bike to see the difference but I find it pretty easy to ride my mx bike through trails.

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 on: Today at 05:23:03 PM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by Otto Man
This thread has all the info you'll need to get started.

http://forums.13x.com/index.php?threads/dirt-bikes.326870/

Big key things:

MX bikes make chitty woods bikes. Suspension is too stiff, radiators too small, usually no easy button, little/no fly wheel weight. Yes, with enough money you can make anything work good in a particular setting.

Woods bikes make chitty MX bikes.

The KTM 300 2 stroke is quite possibly the greatest woods engine, ever. Yes, I have one.

Electric start is almost must have. I can say having an electric start 2 stroke is awesome.

*Most* of us (us being track riders) are looking for woods bikes, if you're just wanting to have fun in the off season or between track days.

250 four strokes are typically thrashed, beat to hell bikes and I would never consider buying a craigslist one.

4 stroke motors can get expensive, very quickly, to fix if they grenade.

Did I mention how awesome the KTM 300 is? It has the torque of a bigger 4 stroke yet wheelies on command. It's awesome.

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 on: Today at 03:56:44 PM 
Started by jasonhise - Last post by jasonhise
GSXR 1000 forks left from a race bike I recently sold. Excellent shape, seals good and less than 5k miles on them. Only the most minimal of cosmetic scratches from removing and the 5,000 miles of use. Price is picked up in Horsham, PA. Shipping if necessary is at your expense. Looking for $175

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 on: Today at 02:00:21 PM 
Started by RocketDan - Last post by RocketDan
How in the world did I miss this thread?!

Bike looks awesome, Daniel - if/when I get new bodywork for the R6, I'll go with Swenson designs as well. Richmond is just over an hour away from me and will make a nice day trip to get new clothes for my bike...

This will be directly after that chassis refresh from Ruhe that I keep saying I'm going to get  :thumbup:

Thanks Shane!

Swenson Design lives up to the hype. Great designer/artist for sure. I told him just a few things and somehow he designed exactly what I was looking for. And the quality of the work is top notch. Not to mention very reasonable and fair to deal with. Only draw back is it took a while. To be expected IMO, as I’m sure he’s in high demand.

When it’s time for new bodywork,  Swenson Design is definitely worth it.


Daniel
OTP Racing #14
Yamaha R1
Wilmington, NC

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 on: Today at 01:49:34 PM 
Started by wallacew - Last post by wallacew
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 on: Today at 01:22:39 PM 
Started by RocketDan - Last post by bigshug1
How in the world did I miss this thread?!

Bike looks awesome, Daniel - if/when I get new bodywork for the R6, I'll go with Swenson designs as well. Richmond is just over an hour away from me and will make a nice day trip to get new clothes for my bike...

This will be directly after that chassis refresh from Ruhe that I keep saying I'm going to get  :thumbup:

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 on: Today at 11:45:28 AM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by RocketDan
Hell yes, Daniel - I appreciate all the suggestions!

At least if I can't ride for crap, I'll at least LOOK like I can  :cool:

It really is all about Perception


Daniel
OTP Racing #14
Yamaha R1
Wilmington, NC

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 on: Today at 11:39:14 AM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by bigshug1
Hell yes, Daniel - I appreciate all the suggestions!

At least if I can't ride for crap, I'll at least LOOK like I can  :cool:

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 on: Today at 10:51:43 AM 
Started by bigshug1 - Last post by RocketDan
Now I'm leaning towards keeping my two-fiddy...because it's already at my house...lol.

So what say you guys and girls? 250 MX bike - an okay "trail bike?" Considering what I may have access to when the weather gets warm, I may need it ;)

250MX bike will certainly work fine on the trails. It is light weight and has plenty of suspension travel.

If you are concerned with whisky throttle then you might consider putting on a progressive throttle tube. G2 makes some options.

Also add some bark buster (or similar hand guards). You want the ones that wrap around the end of the handle bar to provide full protection.  G2 makes some as well.

https://www.g2ergo.com/product-category/dirt-bikes/dirt-bike-throttles/


Daniel
OTP Racing #14
Yamaha R1
Wilmington, NC

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